In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through Chapter 4 of the Living Clean book as we begin exploring the section on “Disabilities.”

We’re joined by a group of special guests who bring real, lived experience to this conversation. Each of them faces different types of disabilities, and together they help us break down the first half of this powerful section.

This episode dives into what it really looks like to navigate recovery while also managing physical, emotional, or cognitive challenges. Our guests share honestly about the obstacles they’ve faced—but more importantly, they share the strength, courage, and perseverance it takes to stay clean and keep moving forward.

This is a conversation about resilience. About not giving up. About finding hope even when life adds extra layers of difficulty.

Because recovery doesn’t require perfect circumstances—it requires willingness, connection, and the courage to keep going.

After sitting in the archive for over a year, we’re finally releasing this conversation with Bo S.

Bo was there in the early days. He served as the first World Literature Conference Chair and was one of the members who stepped forward when the question was asked, “Who’s going to write the book?”

The answer he got was simple: “Any addict.”

And Bo said, “Well, I’m an addict.”

He would go on to be one of only two members to attend all seven World Literature Conferences, playing a role in the development of what would become the Basic Text.

This episode wasn’t easy to release.

When we recorded this, Bo’s health was declining. At times he was sharp and clear, and at other times he struggled with details and timelines. Because of that, we held onto this recording for a long time. We wanted to make sure anything we shared respected both the history and Bo.

After going back through the archive and carefully editing this conversation, what remains is something honest and human.

This may not be our cleanest episode but it’s real.

This week on the Living Clean Podcast, we dive headfirst into Step Four: “We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.”

Our consistent panel returns — Archer, Pete, and Douglas — and we’re joined by two powerful guests, Tim and Dawn, as we break down all things Step Four. We talk about what it really means to be searching. What fearless actually looks like. How to write honestly without drowning in shame. Why resentment, fear, and sex inventories matter. And how this step becomes a turning point in recovery instead of a punishment.

This conversation is real. It’s raw. It’s practical. And it might be the strongest episode in our Step series so far.

If you’ve ever been intimidated by Step Four… If you’ve ever avoided it… If you’re in the middle of it right now…

Do yourself a favor and listen.

This is where freedom begins.