What happens when healthcare technology is built without the people who use it most?

In this episode of Success in Chaos, Angela and Kandice sit down with Dr. Melinda Kidder, DHA, MSN, RN, CENP, MPHC, Chief Nursing Officer for the Office of the National Coordinator for Health IT, to unpack one of the most overlooked drivers of success in healthcare innovation: frontline clinician involvement.

From her journey as a CNA to shaping national health technology policy, Dr. Kidder shares hard-earned lessons from the early days of EHR adoption—and why those same mistakes are now being repeated in the age of AI.

You’ll learn:

• Why nurses must be involved from day one—not as an afterthought
• The biggest disconnect between tech design and real clinical workflows
• What most organizations get wrong about AI adoption
• How to build governance models that actually work
• Why “closing the loop” is the most overlooked step in implementation

If you’re a healthcare executive, operator, or innovator trying to make technology actually deliver outcomes—not just features—this episode is a must-listen.

What happens after we detect disease?

In this episode of After the Chaos, Angela and Kandice reflect on their conversation with Dr. Dan Durand of Prenuvo and unpack a critical shift in healthcare.

As whole-body imaging and AI accelerate early detection, healthcare is facing a new challenge: managing the explosion of data and ensuring it leads to action.

They explore:

• The future of preventative care in a single visit
• The rise of consumer-driven healthcare and demand for insight
• Why the system isn’t built to manage what it finds
• The growing gap between information and care
• How AI is reshaping roles, research, and leadership

Detection is improving. But without follow-through, outcomes won’t.

What does it take to rethink healthcare from the inside out?

In this episode of Success & Chaos, hosts Angela Adams, RN (CEO, Inflo Health) and Kandice Garcia, RN (Owner, Tungsten QI Partners) sit down with Dr. Dan Durand, radiologist, physician executive, and President & Chief Medical Officer of Prenuvo.

Dr. Durand shares his journey from Johns Hopkins and McKinsey to leading one of the most ambitious prevention-focused health platforms in the world.

Together they explore:

• How whole-body MRI is reshaping the early detection conversation
• Why “data is now easier to come by than providers”
• And what AI may mean for the future of diagnostic decision-making

Dr. Durand also discusses Prenuvo’s growing research footprint, including a dataset of 150,000+ whole-body scans and collaborations with nearly 30 academic institutions.

For healthcare leaders navigating workforce shortages, rising consumer expectations, and rapid advances in AI, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at how prevention may reshape the system.

Episode Chapters

01:19 Dr. Dan Durand’s Leadership Journey

07:11 The Vision Behind Prenuvo

14:43 Integrating Proactive Medicine into a Reactive System

19:32 Leadership and Healthcare Transformation

23:39 Consumer Demand for Preventive Care

27:26 Research and Data in Preventive Health

32:22 AI and the Future of Healthcare