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Code. Deploy. Go Live.

Code. Deploy. Go Live.

By: Andrew Connell & Julie Turner
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Welcome to the Code. Deploy. Go Live. podcast! By Microsoft MVPs Andrew Connell and Julie Turner, our mission is to deliver prescriptive guidance on Microsoft 365 and Azure for Full-Stack Developers. Get the latest news, discussions, and interviews on topics ranging from Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, and related topics. For developers, by developers!© 2025 Code. Deploy. Go Live. Politics & Government
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  • 029 | Inside PnPjs: Open Source at Enterprise Scale with the Library Maintainers

    029 | Inside PnPjs: Open Source at Enterprise Scale with the Library Maintainers
    Apr 8 2026
    In this episode, Andrew and Julie sit down with Beau Cameron and Patrick Rodgers, two of the core maintainers of PnPjs, for the podcast's first guest interview. PnPjs is a client-side TypeScript library that wraps both the SharePoint REST and Microsoft Graph APIs into a fluent, developer-friendly interface. With 38,000 tenants relying on the library and handling roughly 38 billion requests per month, PnPjs has become one of the most mission-critical open source projects in the Microsoft 365 ecosystem. The conversation digs into the real challenges of maintaining a library at that scale, including architectural decisions like the elegant Timeline design, controversial API choices around URI escaping and the Pages API, and what it means to be responsible stewards of an open source project by refusing to wrap unsupported or reverse-engineered endpoints. You'll also get a peek at what's coming in v5, which Beau and Patrick describe as a maintenance-focused release aimed at improving code coverage, test execution, and expanding Microsoft Graph API coverage.The hardest part of maintaining PnPjs isn't the code itself, it's maintaining trust. Beau, Patrick, and Julie explore the tough decisions they've had to make as maintainers, from dropping support for legacy v2.1 endpoints to pushing back against shipping features that don't quite work right. Whether it's understanding the design tradeoffs baked into the Timeline architecture, wrestling with the extensibility of behaviors and virtual events, or grappling with the consequences of being used at such massive scale, this episode offers genuine insight into what it takes to steward a library that countless developers depend on every single day.🔗 LINKS=================================================🔗 NASA Artemis II Mission🔗 Two Outlook Instances Running on Artemis🔗 PnPjs GitHub Repository🔗 PnPjs Documentation🎁 Picks=================================================Patrick's Pick(s):🔗 De Buyer Mineral B Carbon Steel Fry PanBeau's Pick(s):🔗 Colorado Fruit Farmers Revive Heirloom Apple OrchardsAndrew's Pick(s):🔗 Claude Code UnpackedJulie's Pick(s):🔗 SP Rest Explorer by Sergei Sergeev🎙️ PODCAST🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky🎙️ HOSTSJulie TurnerAndrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter🎙️ GUESTSPatrick Rodgers: LinkedIn, BlueskyBeau Cameron: LinkedIn, Bluesky, SiteSPONSORSSympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTubeVoitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 BlueskyMusic Credit: Ken Bagley
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 028 | Microsoft 365 Agents Toolkit v6.6.0 Release Review

    028 | Microsoft 365 Agents Toolkit v6.6.0 Release Review
    Mar 25 2026

    In this episode, Andrew and Julie dive deep into the Microsoft 365 Agents Toolkit (ATK) version 6.6.0 release, exploring the latest features and changes for building declarative agents. Andrew walks through the new embedded knowledge functionality that allows developers to include knowledge directly within agents without requiring separate SharePoint uploads, and he shares insights on improvements to actions and plugins. The conversation also covers significant template changes in the toolkit, including what was removed and what's new, along with some frustrations about missed opportunities in how Microsoft is presenting this powerful toolkit to developers.

    Andrew reflects on why the embedded knowledge feature is such a game-changer for agent development, discusses the practical implications of template changes on developer learning and onboarding, and explores the broader ecosystem of plugins and skills that are enabling more sophisticated agent deployments.

    🔗 LINKS
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    AC's Webinars:

    🔗 Microsoft 365 Copilot - Evaluate Your Agent Options

    🔗 Microsoft 365 Copilot - Developer's Guide to Declarative Agents

    🔗 Microsoft 365 AI-Assisted Development

    SharePoint Framework Issues:

    🔗 debugManifest stopped working today

    🔗 SPFx Application Customizers getting "wrong" top placeholder in production

    🔗 SPFx Field & ListForm Customizers not loading from local dev

    AC's Microsoft 365 Agents Toolkit (ATK) v6.6 review

    🔗 Microsoft 365 Agents Toolkit v6.6.0 Release Review

    🎁 Picks
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    Andrew's Pick(s)
    🔗 Skills.sh

    Julie's Pick(s):
    🔗 The Infinite Game, by Simon Sinek

    🎙️ PODCAST
    🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky

    🎙️ HOSTS
    Julie Turner
    Andrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, Newsletter

    SPONSORS
    Sympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTube
    Voitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 Bluesky

    Music Credit: Ken Bagley
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • 027 | SharePoint 25-Year Anniversary - Developer's Perspective

    027 | SharePoint 25-Year Anniversary - Developer's Perspective
    Mar 11 2026
    In this episode, Andrew Connell and Julie Turner celebrate SharePoint's 25th anniversary by examining the platform's evolution through a developer's lens. They chronicle the major development models that shaped SharePoint over the past quarter-century, from the early days of no formal development model and ASP.NET server-side rendering in SharePoint Portal Server 2003, through the introduction of the plugin model in 2007, the partially trusted solutions approach in 2010, the app model in 2013, and the modern SharePoint Framework (SPFx) that launched in 2017. Along the way, they discuss how each evolution addressed real customer pain points and Microsoft's ongoing challenge to enable developer customization while maintaining platform stability and security in a multi-tenant cloud environment.Beyond the technical roadmap, Andrew and Julie reflect on what has made SharePoint meaningful to them personally: the vibrant global community of developers and professionals who have become lifelong friends. They share how the SharePoint ecosystem has provided not only career opportunities but also personal growth through international connections and diverse perspectives. They conclude by discussing SharePoint's current state in the broader Microsoft 365 landscape, where it has evolved from trying to do everything to serving a focused role alongside complementary products like Microsoft Graph, allowing developers to view themselves as part of a larger Microsoft 365 development ecosystem.🔗 LINKS=================================================🔗 SharePoint at 25: Global enterprise knowledge in the AI era🔗 Introducing new agentic building in SharePoint and more updates🔗 SharePoint Hackathon🔗 SharePoint at 25: The knowledge platform for Copilot and agents🎁 Picks=================================================Julie's Pick(s):🔗 Apple Is Developing an AI-Powered Wearable Device🔗 What privacy? As expected, Meta Ray-Bans are a privacy disasterAndrew's Pick(s)🔗 Improving Skill Creator: Test, Measure, and Refine Agent Skills🎙️ PODCAST🔗 https://codedeploygo.live, LinkedIn, Bluesky🎙️ HOSTSJulie TurnerAndrew Connell: LinkedIn, YouTube, Bluesky, NewsletterSPONSORSSympraxis (by Julie Turner) 🔗 Ask Sympraxis 🔗 YouTubeVoitanos (by Andrew Connell) 🔗 LinkedIn 🔗 BlueskyMusic Credit: Ken Bagley (00:00) - Introduction (12:10) - SHAREPOINT'S 25-YEAR JOURNEY FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE (15:55) - Getting Started with SharePoint (20:52) - Evolution of SharePoint Development Models (26:01) - From SharePoint 2003 to 2007 (36:00) - The On-Premises Era (2007-2013) (42:00) - SharePoint Online and the Add-in Model (54:24) - SharePoint Framework Revolution (58:02) - The SharePoint Developer Community (01:05:40) - SharePoint Development Today (01:09:51) - AC'S & JULIE'S PICKS
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    1 hr and 18 mins
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